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<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the late-Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary late-Babylonian ritual texts.
<sup>múl d</sup>GENNA = ''kayyamānu''(''m'') "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts.


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<sup>(d)</sup>GENNA — the designation of Saturn in Seleucid ephemerides and horoscopes [ACT II, 474a; BH, 28]. Temple rituals.
<sup>(d)</sup>GENNA — the designation of Saturn in Seleucid ephemerides and horoscopes [ACT II, 474a; BH, 28]. Temple rituals.
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* (1) New Year ritual in Babylon: <sup>múl</sup>genna mul ''kit-tu''<sub>2</sub> ''u mi-šar'', "Saturn, the star of judgment and justice". [RAcc. 138:307; Linssen 2004, 220:307].
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* (2) Ritual in Uruk, see (Kurtik u07) [[UDU.IDIM]].
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* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' DU''-zu'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
* a) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''lu'' [...] ''ina'' KI SAL.MEŠ KI <sup>d</sup>''Sin'' DU''-zu'' UŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
** "Since Saturn or [Mars], stands with the moon (or: in place of the Moon) within the boundaries of the female: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].
** "Since Saturn or [Mars], stands with the moon (or: in place of the Moon) within the boundaries of the female: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].
* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
* b) ''aš''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> <sup>d</sup>TUR.DIŠ ''u'' <sup>d</sup>''Ṣal-bat<sup>?</sup>-a<sup>?</sup>-nu<sup>?</sup>'' KI ''Sin'' / 2 UŠ<sup>(!)</sup>.MEŠ U<sub>3</sub>.TU
** "As Saturn and Mars? with [or: in place of] the Moon (stands): 2 (male babies?) are born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000]. c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) [[GU4.UD|GU<sub>4</sub>.UD]].
** "As Saturn and Mars? with [or: in place of] the Moon (stands): 2 (male babies?) are born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].
* c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) [[GU4.UD|GU<sub>4</sub>.UD]].
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==== Ritual Texts/ Miscellenous ====

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* (1) New Year ritual in Babylon: <sup>múl</sup>genna mul ''kit-tu''<sub>2</sub> ''u mi-šar'', "Saturn, the star of judgment and justice". [RAcc. 138:307; Linssen 2004, 220:307].
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* (2) Ritual in Uruk, see (Kurtik u07) [[UDU.IDIM]].


==Historical Dictionaries==
==Historical Dictionaries==

Revision as of 16:05, 24 April 2025

múl dGENNA = kayyamānu(m) "Constant" is a common name for Saturn in cuneiform. It is the name that is used in the lists of 7 planets in the the Late Babylonian Uranology tablet MCL 1866 and contemporary Late Babylonian ritual texts.

Heading should be GENNA (TUR.DIŠ) = k.......

All tur.dish should be read genna??? -- doesn''t exist

Need to add Uranology Texts IMLC 1866 iv 8, Beaulieu et al. 38 D iv 8 === Images of Saturn ===

  • Saturn (uppest), Venus (next to the tree) and the Moon (at the horizon) at dusk in January 2025 (Susanne M Hoffmann).

    Saturn (uppest), Venus (next to the tree) and the Moon (at the horizon) at dusk in January 2025 (Susanne M Hoffmann).

  • Saturn at the upper (dark) edge of the Moon on January 4, 2025, short before its occultation. It is obvious that Saturn is visible even with a slightly cloudy/ foggy sky.

    Saturn at the upper (dark) edge of the Moon on January 4, 2025, short before its occultation. It is obvious that Saturn is visible even with a slightly cloudy/ foggy sky.

Dictionary

Var. reading:

  • dTUR.DIŠ; = kayyamānu(m) "Constant"; TUR.DISH is genna
  • SAG.UŠ/UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ "The Planet, Saturn' (should this be here or underster SAG.UŠ with a reference - like - 'for other names for Saturn see the index etc.??? - do these need to be linked

A designation of Saturn in astronomical texts of the first millennium B.C. [G. 69].

The name apparently comes from the Akkadian word, ginâ, "constantly, normally" [AHw. [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], close in meaning to kayyamānu, and apparently reflects the slow motion of Saturn relative to the stars in comparison to other planets.

The Sumerian equivalents of kayyamānu(m) mul/dSAG.UŠ and UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ (Kurtik s10, u09) are also commonly used in the first millennium B.C. [[do you like this statement??]]

Kurtik with Hilder, Hoffmann, Horowitz, Kim

Sources Identifications
Lexical texts.

Neo-Babylonian comments: GENNA = ka-a-a-nu [AHw, 420].

Example
EAE.

Only in later copies and commentaries, cf. [ABCD, 285, BM 47447 Rev. 29; SpTU I, 90:4-5, 7, 9; SpTU II, 42 r. 1, 6; SpTU III, 102 Rs. 8; SpTU IV, 162 r. 13].

"Astronomical Diaries and Related Texts."

First in the diary for -567 as dGENNA [ADRT I, -567:9]; in the same diary we find dSAG.UŠ [ibid., -567:2]; in later texts the designation Saturn is always GENNA.

Mathematical Astronomy.

(d)GENNA — the designation of Saturn in Seleucid ephemerides and horoscopes [ACT II, 474a; BH, 28]. Temple rituals.

Uranology
  • IMLC 1866 iv 8, Beaulieu et al. 38 D iv 8
Late Astrology.Zodiacal Astrology.
  • a) aš2-šu2 dTUR.DIŠ lu [...] ina KI SAL.MEŠ KI dSin DU-zu UŠ U3.TU
    • "Since Saturn or [Mars], stands with the moon (or: in place of the Moon) within the boundaries of the female: a male child will be born." [LBAT, 1593:7′-8′; Reiner 2000].
  • b) aš2-šu2 dTUR.DIŠ u dṢal-bat?-a?-nu? KI Sin / 2 UŠ(!).MEŠ U3.TU
    • "As Saturn and Mars? with [or: in place of] the Moon (stands): 2 (male babies?) are born." [LBAT, 1593:9′-10′; Reiner 2000].
  • c) Mercury or Saturn with the Moon, see (Kurtik g34) GU4.UD.

Ritual Texts/ Miscellenous

  • (1) New Year ritual in Babylon: múlgenna mul kit-tu2 u mi-šar, "Saturn, the star of judgment and justice". [RAcc. 138:307; Linssen 2004, 220:307].
  • (2) Ritual in Uruk, see (Kurtik u07) UDU.IDIM.

Historical Dictionaries

Kurtik (2022, g10) Gössmann (1950)
вар. чтения: dTUR.DIŠ; = kayyamānu(m) «Постоянный»; обозначение Сатурна в астрономических текстах I тыс. до н.э. [G. 69]. Название происходит, по-видимому, от аккадского ginâ «постоянно, нормально» [AHw, 289; CAD G, 78], близкого по смыслу kayyamānu, и отражает, по-видимому, медленный характер движения Сатурна относительно звезд в сравнении с другими планетами. В астрологических текстах обычно употребляли названия SAG.UŠ, UDU.IDIM.SAG.UŠ (s10, u09).

I. Источники.

Лексич. тексты. Нововавилонский комментарий: GENNA = ka-a-a-nu [AHw, 420]. ЕАЕ. Только в поздних копиях и комментариях, см. [ABCD, 285, BM 47447 Rev. 29; SpTU I, 90:4–5, 7, 9; SpTU II, 42 r. 1, 6; SpTU III, 102 Rs. 8; SpTU IV, 162 r. 13]. «Дневники наблюдений». Впервые в дневнике за -567 г. как dGENNA [ADRT I, -567:9]; в этом же дневнике встречаем dSAG.UŠ [ibid., -567:2], в более поздних текстах обозначение Сатурна всегда ― GENNA. Математическая астрономия. (d)GENNA ― обозначение Сатурна в эфемеридах селевкидского времени и гороскопах [ACT II, 474a; BH, 28]. Храмовые ритуалы. (1) Новогодний ритуал в Вавилоне: múlgenna mul kit-tu2 u mi-šar «Сатурн ― звезда суда и справедливости» [RAcc. 138:307; Linssen 2004, 220:307]. (2) Ритуал в Уруке, см. u07UDU.IDIM. Поздняя астрология. Зодиакальная астрология. a) aš2-šu2 dTUR.DIŠ lu […] ina KI SAL.MEŠ KI dSin DU-zu UŠ U3.TU «Поскольку Сатурн или [Марс] в области женщин стоит с Луной (или: на месте Луны): младенец мужского пола родится» [LBAT, 1593:7′–8′; Reiner 2000]. b) aš2-šu2 dTUR.DIŠ u dṢal-bat?-a?-nu? KI Sin / 2 UŠ(!).MEŠ U3.TU «Поскольку Сатурн и Марс? с [или: на месте] Луной (стоят): 2 (младенца мужского пола?) родятся» [LBAT, 1593:9′–10′; Reiner 2000]. с) Меркурий или Сатурн с Луной, см. g34GU4.UD.

См. также mulGI6.NA (силлабическая запись GENNA?) [SpTU II, 42 r. 6].

См. также [SpTU V, 271:8ʹ].

Example

References

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