Solitaire - Revision history

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Sushoff: /* IAU Working Group Star Names */

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IAU Working Group Star Names

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	==IAU Working Group Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==
	The brightest star of historical "Turdus Solitarius" was Sigma Librae, mag. 3.2, named Brachium by WGSN. It was suggested in 2023 to try naming another of its stars, if we can identify them reliably. The French "Solitaire" is an obvious name to use. The biological relative from the neighboring island, the Dodo, is much more popular and even has an emoji. Perhaps we should use this name, too and commemorate extinct animals. Or maybe use a double star for both, Solitaire and Dodo?		The brightest star of historical "Turdus Solitarius" was Sigma Librae, mag. 3.2, named Brachium by WGSN. It was suggested in 2023 to try naming another of its stars, if we can identify them reliably. The French "Solitaire" is an obvious name to use. The biological relative from the neighboring island, the Dodo, is much more popular and even has an emoji. Perhaps we should use this name, too and commemorate extinct animals. Or maybe use a double star for both, Solitaire and Dodo?

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	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==

			* Website of the IAU WGSN: https://exopla.net/
	* Le Monnier's depiction of the Solitaire ([https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k35758/f654.item Gallica])		* Le Monnier's depiction of the Solitaire ([https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k35758/f654.item Gallica])
	* Bode's depiction of the Solitaire ([https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/3341788 eRARA Zurich])		* Bode's depiction of the Solitaire ([https://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/3341788 eRARA Zurich])
	* [http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/lemonniersolitaire.html Ian Ridpath's "Star Tales", online edition]		* [http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/lemonniersolitaire.html Ian Ridpath's "Star Tales", online edition]
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	== Reference ==		== Reference ==

			* [[References\|References (general)]]

	[[Category:Constellation‏‎]]		[[Category:Constellation‏‎]]
			[[Category:Asterism]]
	[[Category:Eurasia]]		[[Category:Eurasia]]
	[[Category:European]]		[[Category:European]]
			[[Category:French]]
	[[Category:IAU-Star Name‏‎]]		[[Category:IAU-Star Name‏‎]]
	[[Category:Hya]]		[[Category:Hya]]

Sushoff: /* Transformations/ Variants */

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Transformations/ Variants

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	File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)		File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)
	File:Solitaire Fortin1795.jpg\|Solitaire depicted in Fortin's Atlas Céleste, 3rd edition (1795)		File:Solitaire Fortin1795.jpg\|Solitaire depicted in Fortin's Atlas Céleste, 3rd edition (1795)
			File:Solitaire Goldbach1799.jpg\|"Solitairvogel" in Goldbach (1799)
	File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)		File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)
	File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).		File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).
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	File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.
	File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.
			File:Solitaire Bode1782.jpg\|"Vogel Einsiedler" in Bode (1805), the 2nd edition of his "Anleitung zur Kenntniß des gestirnten Himmels" with a Flamsteed-based map.
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Transformations/ Variants

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	File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)		File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)
			File:Solitaire Fortin1795.jpg\|Solitaire depicted in Fortin's Atlas Céleste, 3rd edition (1795)
	File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)		File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)
	File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).		File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).
	File:Bode Turdus.jpg\| Turdus Solitarius in Bode's Uranographia. This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects.		File:Bode Turdus.jpg\|Turdus Solitarius in Bode's Uranographia. This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects.
	File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.
	File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.

Sushoff at 14:53, 25 December 2024

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	[[Category:European]]		[[Category:European]]
	[[Category:IAU-Star Name‏‎]]		[[Category:IAU-Star Name‏‎]]
			[[Category:Hya]]

Sushoff: /* IAU Working Group Star Names */

2024-12-14T09:58:30Z

IAU Working Group Star Names

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	* HIP 75939 (6.2 mag, [https://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=HIP+75939&NbIdent=1&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id SIMBAD]) "the one in the bird's eye".		* HIP 75939 (6.2 mag, [https://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=HIP+75939&NbIdent=1&Radius=2&Radius.unit=arcmin&submit=submit+id SIMBAD]) "the one in the bird's eye".

	The name was discussed and approved by the IAU WGSN in ~~202x~~. The WGSN chose ~~...~~ ~~(not to apply/~~ to apply the name to a ~~neighbouring~~ ~~star/~~ to ~~...)~~ in the ~~IAU-CSN~~.		The name was discussed and approved by the IAU WGSN in 2024. The WGSN chose E Hya to apply the name "Solitaire" in the IAU-CSN. It is in memory of the obsolete constellation and the extinction of animals due to human influence.

	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==

Sushoff at 09:56, 14 December 2024

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	== Reference ==		== Reference ==

	[[Category:~~Single star-asterism‏‎~~]]		[[Category:Constellation‏‎]]
	[[Category:Eurasia]]		[[Category:Eurasia]]
	[[Category:European]]		[[Category:European]]
			[[Category:IAU-Star Name‏‎]]

Sushoff: Eric's additions

2024-10-29T18:55:53Z

Eric's additions

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	[[File:Stellarium+solitaire monnier mark+lbl.gif\|thumb\|Animated GIF for the identifications of stars in the constellation of the "Solitaire" by Le Monnier (1776), modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.]]		[[File:Stellarium+solitaire monnier mark+lbl.gif\|thumb\|Animated GIF for the identifications of stars in the constellation of the "Solitaire" by Le Monnier (1776), modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.]]
	[[File:Monticola solitarius, Spain 1.jpg\|alt=photograph\|thumb\|Blue rock thrush, male, Spain (CC-BY Jose Maria Carretero Palacios from Jerez de los Caballeros, España), Spanish term: Roquero solitario.]]		[[File:Monticola solitarius, Spain 1.jpg\|alt=photograph\|thumb\|Blue rock thrush, male, Spain (CC-BY Jose Maria Carretero Palacios from Jerez de los Caballeros, España), Spanish term: Roquero solitario.]]
	[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/lemonniersolitaire.html Ian Ridpath] elaborates that the engraver Yves-Marie Le Gouaz (1742–1816) accompanied Pierre Le Monnier's announcement of the new constellation and states: <blockquote>Unfortunately the bird shown on the engraving is not the Rodrigues solitaire as Le Monnier had intended, but rather a blue rock thrush, known as the solitaire of the Philippines. Whether the error was due to Le Monnier or Le Gouaz is unknown.</blockquote>Bode (1801) in his famous ''Uranographia'' takes over the idea of this additional bird but depicts it slightly differently. His label in Latin is "Turdus Solitarius" which is the scientific term for the Blue Rock Thrush, first described in Carl von Linné (Carl Linnaeus): Systema Naturae<ref>Linné On Line - University of Uppsala, [https://web.archive.org/web/20040111191036/http://www.linnaeus.uu.se/online/animal/1_1.html wayback-machine]</ref><ref>English translation of Linné's book by William Turton (1806): A General System of Nature,: Through the Three Grand Kingdoms of Animals, Vegetables, and Minerals, Systematically Divided Into Their Several Classes, Orders, Genera, Species, and Varieties. Lackington, Allen, and Company. </ref> (10th edition 1758).		[http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/lemonniersolitaire.html Ian Ridpath] elaborates that the engraver Yves-Marie Le Gouaz (1742–1816) accompanied Pierre Le Monnier's announcement of the new constellation and states: <blockquote>Unfortunately the bird shown on the engraving is not the Rodrigues solitaire as Le Monnier had intended, but rather a blue rock thrush, known as the solitaire of the Philippines. Whether the error was due to Le Monnier or Le Gouaz is unknown.</blockquote>Bode (1801) in his famous ''Uranographia'' takes over the idea of this additional bird but depicts it slightly differently. His label in Latin is "Turdus Solitarius" which is the scientific term for the Blue Rock Thrush, first described in Carl von Linné (Carl Linnaeus): Systema Naturae<ref>Linné On Line - University of Uppsala, [https://web.archive.org/web/20040111191036/http://www.linnaeus.uu.se/online/animal/1_1.html wayback-machine]</ref><ref>English translation of Linné's book by William Turton (1806): A General System of Nature,: Through the Three Grand Kingdoms of Animals, Vegetables, and Minerals, Systematically Divided Into Their Several Classes, Orders, Genera, Species, and Varieties. Lackington, Allen, and Company. </ref> (10th edition 1758).

			==== Translations ====
			In "''Kenntniß zu Anleitung des Gestirnten Himmels''" (in German), Bode 1805 refers to it as "der Vogel Einsiedler" - "the hermit bird". When talking about Le Monnier's original constellation, Jamieson (1822) refers to it as "''L'Ermite Oiseau''" - never referring to it as either Solitaire or Turdus Solitarius.

	=== List of Identified Stars in Monnier's Map ===		=== List of Identified Stars in Monnier's Map ===

RobvGent: minor

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minor

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	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
	The extinct constellations Turdus Solitarius and Noctua, which share some history and region of the sky, have brief summaries in ''Star Names - Their Lore and Meaning'' by Richard H. Allen (1899, pp. 418-419) and in ''Star Tales'' by Ian Ridpath (1988, p. 151) and have a dedicated chapter in ''The Lost Constellations'' by John C. Barentine (2015, ch. 29, pp. 449-464).		The extinct constellations Turdus Solitarius and Noctua, which share some history and region of the sky, have brief summaries in ''Star Names - Their Lore and Meaning'' by Richard H. Allen (1899, pp. 418-419) and in ''Star Tales'' by Ian Ridpath (1988, p. 151) and have a dedicated chapter in ''The Lost Constellations'' by John C. Barentine (2015, ch. 29, pp. 449-464).

	The classical constellation Hydra ends with the star Pi Hydrae. In early modern time, some astronomers extended the chain of stars towards Libra and even introduced yet another bird on its longer end (as traditionally, the Raven sits on the tail tip of Hydra). The constellation of "Solitaire" was first depicted in Pierre Charles Le Monnier's contribution to the ''[https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k35758/f654.item Histoire de l'Académie royale des sciences ... avec les mémoires de mathématique & de physique... tirez des registres de cette Académie],'' from the French Academy of Science (Académie royale des sciences, Paris) 1776.		The classical constellation Hydra ends with the star Pi Hydrae. In early modern time, some astronomers extended the chain of stars towards Libra and even introduced yet another bird on its longer end (as traditionally, the Raven sits on the tail tip of Hydra). The constellation of "Solitaire" was first depicted in Pierre Charles Le Monnier's contribution to the ''[https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k35758/f654.item Histoire de l'Académie royale des sciences ... avec les mémoires de mathématique & de physique... tirez des registres de cette Académie],'' from the French Academy of Science (Académie royale des sciences, Paris) 1776.

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Emoji

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	=== Emoji ===		=== Emoji ===
	[[File:Dodo emojis.jpg\|thumb\|random versions of "dodo"-emojis displayed by a search engine]]
	The description reads: <blockquote>A brown or gray dodo shown in full profile. Generally depicted with a curved yellow beak, small wings, a fluffy white tail, yellow or orange feet, and black talons.		The description reads: <blockquote>A brown or gray dodo shown in full profile. Generally depicted with a curved yellow beak, small wings, a fluffy white tail, yellow or orange feet, and black talons.

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	File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)		File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)
	File:Solitaire Fortin1795.jpg\|Solitaire depicted in Fortin's Atlas Céleste, 3rd edition (1795)		File:Solitaire Fortin1795.jpg\|Solitaire depicted in Fortin's Atlas Céleste, 3rd edition (1795)
			File:Solitaire Goldbach1799.jpg\|"Solitairvogel" in Goldbach (1799)
	File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)		File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)
	File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).		File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).
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	File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.
	File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.
			File:Solitaire Bode1782.jpg\|"Vogel Einsiedler" in Bode (1805), the 2nd edition of his "Anleitung zur Kenntniß des gestirnten Himmels" with a Flamsteed-based map.
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	File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)		File:LeMonnier1776 solitaire.jpeg\|Pierre Le Monnier's "Constellation du Solitaire" in the History of the French Academy of Science publication (1776)
			File:Solitaire Fortin1795.jpg\|Solitaire depicted in Fortin's Atlas Céleste, 3rd edition (1795)
	File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)		File:Solitaire bode1801.JPG\|constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801)
	File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).		File:Solitaire bode1801 highlight.jpg\|Solitaire in Bode (1801) highlighted (CC BY WGSN).
	File:Bode Turdus.jpg\| Turdus Solitarius in Bode's Uranographia. This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects.		File:Bode Turdus.jpg\|Turdus Solitarius in Bode's Uranographia. This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects.
	File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium+solitaire bode+labls+markers.gif\|Animated GIF to identify the area of the constellation "Turdus Solitarius" in Bode (1801), modern star chart from Stelllarium, GIF by SMH 2024.
	File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.		File:Stellarium-solitair Bode+Monnier.gif\|animated GIF for the comparison of the "Solitaire" in Monnier (1776) and Bode (1801); modern star chart from Stellarium, GIF by SMH 2024.